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  1958 VS 2019 International Covention

  by joey jojo in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlkvocpun8w.

  2019. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qut4sr9elo.

  so many emotional triggers and not much substance in 2019. at least they highlighted a part of a talk from knorr in the 1958 vid, nothing but a lovefest in the 2019 clip.

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  I wonder of those who are still alive today that attended that convention are still active Jw`s today ,just curious ?

  Yes, my ex wife. My son in Harriman, Tenn. lives nearby and at last report she is wheelchair-bound.

  Also, my son there married the daughter of my former best friend (and his wife), who are still living but at 84 are not kicking up their heels. They were there in N.Y. in '58.

  I'm not as spry as I was but remember that convention quite well, cuz that's where my ex-wife began to get serious. We married the following April 4th.

  We parted ways in 1977 but I also lost two of my boys who remained with her. I can report that shunning is alive and well as I've never even met my three grandchildren in Harriman.

  From 1977 onward I followed a better than average career, enjoyed golf and tennis (not ranked in my 40's age group, I took the first of 3 sets over Texas' no. 1 -- who was no. 7 in the nation).

  Today, there are no nearby tennis facilities -- or players -- so I've had a chance to hone my golf swing to the best it's ever been. Not as long off the tee as when I was nearly 25 in the following shot (yes, I skipped magazine work on this October, 1965, Saturday morning) by a co-worker. I am now more accurate and solid.

  
  
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  Criminal Charges against Jehovah's Witnesses for Trial Fraud!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  just in case this wasn't posted yet.. criminal charges against jehovah's witnesses for trial fraud.

  (a video is provided on this same page.).

  use google translate.. https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/baden-wuerttemberg/strafanzeige-wegen-prozessbetrugs-gegen-zeugen-jehovas,zeugen-jehovas-104.html atlantis!

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  If those charges hold up in German court other countries (U.S., Austrailia, U.K., France, etc) should follow suit.
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  Mixed up references in "The Origin of Life"

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  until now, i have never had a reason to read the brochure "the origin of life" so i am certain that what i am about to say has been commented on widely.. page 31 commences the list of endnotes.. endnote 1a gives "francis crick" as its source.

  there is no reference to any endnote 1a in the body of the brochure.

  however, page 32 credits "nicholas wade" at endnote 18. page 14 of the brochure makes reference to endnote 18, with the nondescript "one science book".. page 31 lists an endnote 7a, which does not exist in the body of the brochure.

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  New light will fix that all up.
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  Well done lady!!!

  by Disassociated Lady 2 in

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  2. child-abuse

  have you seen this footage of a woman commenting on yesterdays watchtower article about child abuse and what happened.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_ndjphv1w.

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  Lady, I love you for your courage.
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  Today's local watchtower study. On csa! Must read

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  my wife told me that the wt conductor said in in the strongest most emphatic way.

  that all child abusers will now be reported to the authorities whether there are 2 witnesses or not!

  and this is new thinking!

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  Wow, LevelThePlayingField. We're all ears, especially to those 5 witnesses. I'm popping some corn as I type.
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  New Light, the teaching that has morphed into Old Alibi

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as far as i recall watchtower's new light doctrine was conceived from the very first issue of zion's watchtower and herald of christ's presence, 1879. c.t.

  russell used it then as an alibi for his failed 1874 and 1878 dates.

  1874 was eventually replaced by 1914 and the rest is history.. well, they've been using the alibi ever since -- for the some 24 failed events that were supposed to happen in 1914 to the 49 failed dates over the years.. at the heart and soul of watchtower's "new light" teaching is proverbs 4:18, ".

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  Thanks, Smiles, for your well-written endorsement.

  One thing not emphasized enough in those essays is the ease of finding old documents.

  Https://archive.org is a wonderful free site, where Watchtower cannot hide their older documents. Nor can other more popular magazines and books.

  Here's a LIFE cover from wayback.

  

  Watchtower books quoted inside both essays such as The Harp of God; The New Creation, Studies in the Scriptures, etc., cannot hide from its clutches.

  Len
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  Two JW`s called at my door today

  by smiddy3 in

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  the wife and i were expecting a health worker to call at our door 10:30 this morning and about 10;35 two women appeared at our door so i opened up thinking they were who i expected ,so i was take back a bit being caught off guard when they identified themselves as doing a bible work.. this is just the gist of what took place & not a word for word conversation.. a woman about in her fifties her companion about her twenties.the older woman did most of the talking as she read to me the scripture from her phone " in the last days critical times hard to deal with...etc.etc.and she went back and emphasised that we were living in the last days because of what that scripture said.. i made the comment that the scripture just about sums up human history in any given time.then i went on to say that this day and age is the best time in human history overall given the advances in technology ,medical procedures ,the overall standard of living being higher and so on .but they insisted on we were living in the last days.then i said different religions have been claiming that for the past couple hundred years.. then to throw them a curve ball i asked if they were mormons ?

  oh no we are jehovah`s witnesses.had i been prepared for them and not caught out unawares i would have taken a different tact.i then asked the older woman how long she has been a witness and she said 36 years so i then said to her you must have seen a lot of changes in your religion during that time which she agreed with.

  ( the light gets brighter).

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  Blondie: "Check the two together and see how their song was different in 1980".

  Let me guess, without peeking -- the 1976 explanation was "current truth". The 1980 version was "New Light".

  Am I right?
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  My Hollywood Memory : Sean Connery and Michael Caine

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  the year is 1983.. two new james bond films are slated for release, one of which will star the one, the only, sean connery, while the other one sports jolly roger moore.. never say never again vs octopussy, and i am one of the original james bond fanatics--so, how can i possibly miss out on the opportunity to attend the world premiere of connery’s flick?

  the premiere was to be held at the mann national theater in westwood california.. was i excited or what?!.

  tickets were impossible to obtain--unless--you had contacts in “the biz” and fortunately for me, i did.

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  It was 5 years later, 1988, when Dirty Rotten Scoundrels with Michael Caine and Steve Martin appeared. Here, two con men try to settle their rivalry by betting on who can swindle a young American heiress.

  I won't spoil it as to who wins.

  Len
  
  
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  New Light, the teaching that has morphed into Old Alibi

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as far as i recall watchtower's new light doctrine was conceived from the very first issue of zion's watchtower and herald of christ's presence, 1879. c.t.

  russell used it then as an alibi for his failed 1874 and 1878 dates.

  1874 was eventually replaced by 1914 and the rest is history.. well, they've been using the alibi ever since -- for the some 24 failed events that were supposed to happen in 1914 to the 49 failed dates over the years.. at the heart and soul of watchtower's "new light" teaching is proverbs 4:18, ".

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  And those 49 failed dates.

  Here's the link.

  Len Miller
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  New Light, the teaching that has morphed into Old Alibi

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as far as i recall watchtower's new light doctrine was conceived from the very first issue of zion's watchtower and herald of christ's presence, 1879. c.t.

  russell used it then as an alibi for his failed 1874 and 1878 dates.

  1874 was eventually replaced by 1914 and the rest is history.. well, they've been using the alibi ever since -- for the some 24 failed events that were supposed to happen in 1914 to the 49 failed dates over the years.. at the heart and soul of watchtower's "new light" teaching is proverbs 4:18, ".

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  Good thought, Sea Breeze.

  As to those 24 failed events that were supposed to happen in 1914 (News Flash, not one of them was the single most significant event of 1914, the beginning of the "Great War" -- WWI)

  Here's the link.

  Len Miller